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		<title>By: Dara</title>
		<link>http://charlottegore.com/2009/06/04/how-to-remove-brown.html/comment-page-1#comment-6997</link>
		<dc:creator>Dara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now come on, Charlotte, does Sarah really want Gordon at home all day...close your eyes and think a minute...Gordon at breakfast; Gordon at elevenses; Gordon putting in the garden, Gordon hanging around the kitchen, &lt;i&gt;Gordon and Susan on the High Street&lt;/i&gt; Gordon helping Susan choose her clothes, make up, friends and reading material and making her walk three paces behind.  Gordon asking Susan if he&#039;s taken his pills.  Gordon asking Susan if it&#039;s time to take them again.  Gordon asking if anyone has called.  Gordon asking whom Susan is talking to...

We&#039;re not even up to lunchtime...................................................

If I were Susan I&#039;d be saying &quot;don&#039;t let them push you out of your job...&quot; (please God keep him out of my kitchen/bedroom/livingroom...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now come on, Charlotte, does Sarah really want Gordon at home all day&#8230;close your eyes and think a minute&#8230;Gordon at breakfast; Gordon at elevenses; Gordon putting in the garden, Gordon hanging around the kitchen, <i>Gordon and Susan on the High Street</i> Gordon helping Susan choose her clothes, make up, friends and reading material and making her walk three paces behind.  Gordon asking Susan if he&#8217;s taken his pills.  Gordon asking Susan if it&#8217;s time to take them again.  Gordon asking if anyone has called.  Gordon asking whom Susan is talking to&#8230;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not even up to lunchtime&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>If I were Susan I&#8217;d be saying &#8220;don&#8217;t let them push you out of your job&#8230;&#8221; (please God keep him out of my kitchen/bedroom/livingroom&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James D</title>
		<link>http://charlottegore.com/2009/06/04/how-to-remove-brown.html/comment-page-1#comment-4328</link>
		<dc:creator>James D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Labour&#039;s majority is 63, not 125. Only 32 backbenchers therefore need to threaten to vote on such a motion in the House. Like the Nationalists&#039; one on Wednesday.

If anything, the best case scenario for the Labour rebels is for exactly 32 of them to vote against the Government on Wednesday, so that Brown has the humiliation of being saved by the DUP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labour&#8217;s majority is 63, not 125. Only 32 backbenchers therefore need to threaten to vote on such a motion in the House. Like the Nationalists&#8217; one on Wednesday.</p>
<p>If anything, the best case scenario for the Labour rebels is for exactly 32 of them to vote against the Government on Wednesday, so that Brown has the humiliation of being saved by the DUP.</p>
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		<title>By: measured</title>
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		<dc:creator>measured</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brown was dogged in his determination to be PM and he is dogmatic in his approach. I agree with you, Charlotte. You should win that bet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brown was dogged in his determination to be PM and he is dogmatic in his approach. I agree with you, Charlotte. You should win that bet.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Reckons</title>
		<link>http://charlottegore.com/2009/06/04/how-to-remove-brown.html/comment-page-1#comment-4290</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Reckons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Charlotte. I have posted an update on my blog now (http://markreckons.blogspot.com/2009/06/does-someone-fancy-little-wager.html)

I have clarified the terms of this as I am talking about if he steps down this month. I am not interested in internal Labour party election timescales and whether he stays on as caretaker PM in the interim. I should perhaps have been clearer originally but please let me know if you are happy with the terms and assuming you are then it&#039;s game on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Charlotte. I have posted an update on my blog now (<a href="http://markreckons.blogspot.com/2009/06/does-someone-fancy-little-wager.html" rel="nofollow">http://markreckons.blogspot.com/2009/06/does-someone-fancy-little-wager.html</a>)</p>
<p>I have clarified the terms of this as I am talking about if he steps down this month. I am not interested in internal Labour party election timescales and whether he stays on as caretaker PM in the interim. I should perhaps have been clearer originally but please let me know if you are happy with the terms and assuming you are then it&#8217;s game on!</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte Gore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlotte Gore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All too true, Ian, sad to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All too true, Ian, sad to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian B</title>
		<link>http://charlottegore.com/2009/06/04/how-to-remove-brown.html/comment-page-1#comment-4282</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alone among my countrymen, I don&#039;t much care about removing Brown. Does anyone expect things to improve under some other &quot;leader&quot;? I don&#039;t. The policies implemented and articulated by the visible political faces- Brown, or Blair, or Blears- are formulated by the wider ruling class, and will continue regardless of which stuffed sock is given official political authority. Until we can shift the hegemonic paternalist/statist values, the individuals are irrelevant.

I don&#039;t think Mr Brown is a very nice man, but I don&#039;t much care about that since I don&#039;t have to have dinner with him or anything. But he&#039;s just a figurehead for the elites. I fear many people are looking forward to getting rid of Labour, with some crazy idea that things can only get better, just as in 1997 when the Major government was on the ropes. Things got worse then, and things will continue to get worse for the foreseeable future whichever party is in power- including the Libs- because they are all signed up ideologically to the same ruinous, er, ideology.

The only real hope for change is to change that nebulous &quot;mood of the country&quot;, and as every good Gramscian[1] knows that means subverting the cultural hegemony in our direction, and since that is an edifice without obvious weak spots- especially as The Enemy have constructed and control a madrassa system called &quot;Free Universal Edjication&quot;- that is going to be immensely difficult, and all we can say with confidence is that we haven&#039;t even made a start yet.

So really, Brown, Blears, some bloke called Johnson, pfft. As Spinal Tap wisely reminded us, &lt;i&gt;The more it stays the same, the less it changes... That&#039;s the majesty of rock, the pageantry of roll&quot;.

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[1] Although blaming Gramsci is a nice narrative, really the man is overrated. Stripped of the marxist jargon, he just described a campaigning and political methodology as old as time, and widely implemented before he wrote a word, which is that you can only get what you want by getting the elite on your side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alone among my countrymen, I don&#8217;t much care about removing Brown. Does anyone expect things to improve under some other &#8220;leader&#8221;? I don&#8217;t. The policies implemented and articulated by the visible political faces- Brown, or Blair, or Blears- are formulated by the wider ruling class, and will continue regardless of which stuffed sock is given official political authority. Until we can shift the hegemonic paternalist/statist values, the individuals are irrelevant.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Mr Brown is a very nice man, but I don&#8217;t much care about that since I don&#8217;t have to have dinner with him or anything. But he&#8217;s just a figurehead for the elites. I fear many people are looking forward to getting rid of Labour, with some crazy idea that things can only get better, just as in 1997 when the Major government was on the ropes. Things got worse then, and things will continue to get worse for the foreseeable future whichever party is in power- including the Libs- because they are all signed up ideologically to the same ruinous, er, ideology.</p>
<p>The only real hope for change is to change that nebulous &#8220;mood of the country&#8221;, and as every good Gramscian[1] knows that means subverting the cultural hegemony in our direction, and since that is an edifice without obvious weak spots- especially as The Enemy have constructed and control a madrassa system called &#8220;Free Universal Edjication&#8221;- that is going to be immensely difficult, and all we can say with confidence is that we haven&#8217;t even made a start yet.</p>
<p>So really, Brown, Blears, some bloke called Johnson, pfft. As Spinal Tap wisely reminded us, <i>The more it stays the same, the less it changes&#8230; That&#8217;s the majesty of rock, the pageantry of roll&#8221;.</p>
<p>_<br />
[1] Although blaming Gramsci is a nice narrative, really the man is overrated. Stripped of the marxist jargon, he just described a campaigning and political methodology as old as time, and widely implemented before he wrote a word, which is that you can only get what you want by getting the elite on your side.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guido is right. He really is the prime mentalist. I expect a lot of office equipment to be damaged in the next few days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guido is right. He really is the prime mentalist. I expect a lot of office equipment to be damaged in the next few days.</p>
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		<title>By: Constantly Furious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constantly Furious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great post. So great, that something suspiciously similar has just appeared over at &lt;i&gt;Constantly Furious&lt;/i&gt; (with credit - I&#039;m not an &lt;i&gt;animal&lt;/i&gt;.)

You say it all so much purdier..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great post. So great, that something suspiciously similar has just appeared over at <i>Constantly Furious</i> (with credit &#8211; I&#8217;m not an <i>animal</i>.)</p>
<p>You say it all so much purdier..</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Thornhill</title>
		<link>http://charlottegore.com/2009/06/04/how-to-remove-brown.html/comment-page-1#comment-4278</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Thornhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 14:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have long predicted that Gordon would have to be physically removed. I mean, physically, as in his puffy fingertips, devoid of nails to gain purchase, slide across the hi-gloss black of No10 into a waiting Vauxhall Omega - the ultimate indignity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have long predicted that Gordon would have to be physically removed. I mean, physically, as in his puffy fingertips, devoid of nails to gain purchase, slide across the hi-gloss black of No10 into a waiting Vauxhall Omega &#8211; the ultimate indignity.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://charlottegore.com/2009/06/04/how-to-remove-brown.html/comment-page-1#comment-4273</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 09:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m getting the feeling that Brown has already called some bluffs. I can quite easily see Hazel Blears visiting him and saying &#039;step down or I&#039;ll resign&#039;, and him telling her she wouldn&#039;t dare.

You&#039;re right, though, he&#039;s not going voluntarily. Unlike his predecessor he lacks an understanding of when his time is up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m getting the feeling that Brown has already called some bluffs. I can quite easily see Hazel Blears visiting him and saying &#8216;step down or I&#8217;ll resign&#8217;, and him telling her she wouldn&#8217;t dare.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, though, he&#8217;s not going voluntarily. Unlike his predecessor he lacks an understanding of when his time is up.</p>
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