Let’s see.. hmm…

In Mein Kampf, Hitler talked about the “Manifesto for the Abolition of Interest Slavery”, The 25 points of the National Socialist Party advocates “The abolition of incomes unearned by work, The breaking of the slavery of interest” and states “We demand the ruthless prosecution of those whose activities are injurious to the common interest. Common criminals, usurers, profiteers, etc., must be punished with death, whatever their creed or race”.

You know, large segregated communities of muslims with their own schools, own businesses, own communities completely isolated from other communities are a bad thing. They’re bad because they mean that otherwise sane and rational people get scared and angry and start turning to people who promise the very worst, the least British political ideology ever.

British liberalism, you see, free trade, Capitalism… these things were the ‘our way of life’ that we were fighting for against the Nazis. We weren’t fighting to save the Jews. The Germans, above all else, hated liberalism. They thought socialism was the way. They saw the Jews (happy capitalists that they were) as a threat to the communitarian, collectivist German way of life.. and thanks to a depression and a war wiping out Germany’s middle class, Hitler was able to come to power on a populist anti-capitalist, anti-jew platform.

Looking at Griffo’s ecomomic policies I see exactly the same mentality – raise up the walls, nationalise everything, subsume everything in the interests of the state, or whatever objectives Griffo decides. It’s the death of individualism, and if you can’t see that by helping the BNP, or Labour, or any collectivist party (whether they’re socialist, fascist, communist, whatever..) you’re working against Britishness. You’re bringing German style fascism to the UK, which makes your sanctimonious claims to want to preserve an ideal of Britain as ridiculous as it is hypocritical.

Yet, funnily enough, it’s the BNP’s racism that really damns it. I don’t know why. Perhap’s it’s just something about the character of the majority of people that just sees something distasteful and mean-spirited and frankly un-British at picking on people who can’t defend themselves.

For me the racism is a complete side issue. I personally don’t like it but I don’t condemn the BNP for being racist. I don’t even condemn them for exploiting racism to win council seats in run down white estates. I condemn them for being authoritarian, for being facist, for being nationalist, for being all those things that lead to totalitarianism, to tyranny, to economic ruin whether or not they then decide to go on to murder immigrants, homosexuals, intellectuals, capitalists, bloggers, whatever. They’re wrong anyway. Completely.

You claim the maths are simple yet you seem to be in ignorance of the fact that the variables in your calculations are unknown.

And, you know what? Seriously? I couldn’t care less either way. Other people’s faith doesn’t make the slightest bit of difference so long as the state preserves civil liberties properly, retains our right to free speech, doesn’t fund faith schools and guarantees that each person is equal under the law.

We might not have these things, but these are the things I’d rather concentrate on rather than opening the door to fascists. My objection to fascism, I assure you, is far more to do with their economic policies (nationalisation, protectionism) than anything else. They’re still collectivist, thinking that the ‘ends’ of putting the state first means doing anything they like to particular individuals, and that’s why they’re wrong.

So yes, you’re barking up completely the wrong tree here.

Re the Islamisation of the UK, the maths is quite simple. I got A level maths – how about you? Muslims expanding at ten times the rate of the rest of us. That means “Muslim country” in a few decades.

Yasser Arafat made exactly this prediction, as did Gadaffi. Yes, I know Gadaffi is a twit, but he’s not as big a twit as the average white UK politically correct liberal.

Anyway, are you enjoying your curtailed right to criticise religion?

Are you happy with Muslims getting the job description of the UN rapporteur on Human Rights changed from “exposing those who prevent free speech” to “exposing those who defame religions and prophets”? See Johan Hari’s article on this:

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-why-should-i-respect-these-oppressive-religions-1517789.html

Finally, I’d like to apologise from the bottom of my heart for the pathetic racist policies of the BNP. I mean Labour plus Tories backed the Iraq invasion on the basis of doctored intelligence reports and a pack of lies, which resulted in a million Muslim and Kurd deaths. In contrast the BNP always opposed this war, plus they’ve never killed a single Muslim or Kurd. Compared to Labour, the BNP’s racism is, as I say, pathetic.

Do me a favour will you? Take yourself and your friends to some Muslim country (along with all Muslims in the UK). That way you and your Muslim friends get what you hypocritically claim to want. And I (beastly racist that I am)get what I want, namely a British Britian for my grandchildren. It’s called freedom of choice, which I believe in. Free choice makes everyone better off because they can get what they claim to want. But you don’t want freedom, do you – at least not for anyone else.

As for what Muslims do, migrating from a culture which has yet to have its renaissance to one that has, and then claim that one’s own culture is superior, well that’s just stupidity combined with bloody mindedness combined with hypocrisy.

Just saying too.

And to you.

“But i still dont agree with you on this one”

And what a boring old world it would be if we all agreed. I’d have no one to argue with for a start, and that would never do.

all the best anyway. But i still dont agree with you on this one

As I say, that’s just ‘no platform’ pretending to be a grown up.

“I leave that to you liberals – perenial losers in every contest you ever enter.”

Oh, I’m not a lib dem, I just wandered in here by mistake.

I aint advocating that we deny the BNP any rights, just that that maistream parties continue to exercise their right not to appear on platforms with BNP spokespeople.

I am not in favour of “no platform”, I’m just not infavour of enahancing the BNP’s platform by turning up and debating with them.

And I aint in favour of the trot/student antics of the Westemister Green protestors ths afternoon. Nor am I in favour of the etiquet of a student union debating club…..

I leave that to you liberals – perenial losers in every contest you ever enter.