Comments on: How to Completely Screw Up A Campaign http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/01/how-to-completely-screw-up-a-campaign.html Free Trade and Free Minds. Politics for Reasonable People. Independent Political Blogging. Top 20 Blog. Libertarianism. Laser Kitties. Tue, 10 May 2011 21:47:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: graco playard http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/01/how-to-completely-screw-up-a-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-14006 graco playard Sat, 29 May 2010 21:10:48 +0000 http://charlottegore.com/?p=1732#comment-14006 Babies are the best and deserve only that! Your blog has given me some great ideas, so thank you and please keep it going! Babies are the best and deserve only that! Your blog has given me some great ideas, so thank you and please keep it going!

]]> By: Old Holborn http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/01/how-to-completely-screw-up-a-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-7530 Old Holborn Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:56:29 +0000 http://charlottegore.com/?p=1732#comment-7530 To be governed is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be governed is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be placed under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonoured. That is government; that is it's justice; that is its morality. To be governed is to be watched, inspected, spied upon, directed, law-driven, numbered, regulated, enrolled, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, checked, estimated, valued, censured, commanded, by creatures who have neither the right nor the wisdom nor the virtue to do so. To be governed is to be at every operation, at every transaction noted, registered, counted, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, prevented, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be placed under contribution, drilled, fleeced, exploited, monopolized, extorted from, squeezed, hoaxed, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, vilified, harassed, hunted down, abused, clubbed, disarmed, bound, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, derided, outraged, dishonoured. That is government; that is it’s justice; that is its morality.

]]> By: JuliaM http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/01/how-to-completely-screw-up-a-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-7487 JuliaM Sat, 03 Oct 2009 15:40:52 +0000 http://charlottegore.com/?p=1732#comment-7487 <i>"But no, nothing’s ever that simple. Spent the day battling with someone determined to portray this ‘campaign’ as something called Astroturfing..."</i> Don't battle with them, don't fall back on the reasonable polite way of dealing with false allegations. Simply say, every time they try this: 'That is a lie. And you are a liar.' “But no, nothing’s ever that simple. Spent the day battling with someone determined to portray this ‘campaign’ as something called Astroturfing…”

Don’t battle with them, don’t fall back on the reasonable polite way of dealing with false allegations.

Simply say, every time they try this: ‘That is a lie. And you are a liar.’

]]> By: Belinda BG http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/01/how-to-completely-screw-up-a-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-7477 Belinda BG Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:23:37 +0000 http://charlottegore.com/?p=1732#comment-7477 Sticks and stones... Astroturf campaigns are ones which have money pumped into them by a big corporation, a donor, a government, or a rich charity and then pretends to be grassroots. I know nothing about the strike, but to be someone affected by the strike and then asking others to support your cause having laid out how it affects you, seems pretty grassroots to me. Sticks and stones…

Astroturf campaigns are ones which have money pumped into them by a big corporation, a donor, a government, or a rich charity and then pretends to be grassroots.

I know nothing about the strike, but to be someone affected by the strike and then asking others to support your cause having laid out how it affects you, seems pretty grassroots to me.

]]> By: AJ http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/01/how-to-completely-screw-up-a-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-7472 AJ Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:45:16 +0000 http://charlottegore.com/?p=1732#comment-7472 I think you do a great job Charlotte, and what you would bring to politics is honesty and humility(quite unique in that field). You always consider alternative and opposing views. The bin debate, while demonstrating that the binmen are only standing up for a fair wage, exposes them and all of us as victims of a restrictive,dogmatic system. Job done. I think you do a great job Charlotte, and what you would bring to politics is honesty and humility(quite unique in that field). You always consider alternative and opposing views. The bin debate, while demonstrating that the binmen are only standing up for a fair wage, exposes them and all of us as victims of a restrictive,dogmatic system.
Job done.

]]> By: Dick Puddlecote http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/01/how-to-completely-screw-up-a-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-7471 Dick Puddlecote Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:36:23 +0000 http://charlottegore.com/?p=1732#comment-7471 CF is spot on. Bankrupt in every sense indeed. Seriously, CG, I'm not deliberately spamming here, but I posted something on mine tonight about how the righteous have decided that <a href="http://dickpuddlecote.blogspot.com/2009/09/who-needs-evidence.html" rel="nofollow">evidence isn't required for their laws</a> anymore. It does seem to be the modern way that, when faced with a problem, debate is discarded in favour of ad homs and illiberal arguments. Anyone who disagrees with the 'progressive left' is instantly attacked as immoral, uncaring, or in many cases, advocating the suffering of others. Without proper debate, there can never be an equitable solution to <strong>any</strong> problem. Years of bad laws forced through by a combination of Labour dogma and spin should have taught the country that, but then, I don't believe socialists ever aspire to such a thing, I truly believe they are only motivated by self-interest. Unfortunately, it would appear that they have taught the population in general to expect the same selfishness to be admired in all areas. That's the atrocious legacy of Labour IMHO. CF is spot on. Bankrupt in every sense indeed. Seriously, CG, I’m not deliberately spamming here, but I posted something on mine tonight about how the righteous have decided that evidence isn’t required for their laws anymore.

It does seem to be the modern way that, when faced with a problem, debate is discarded in favour of ad homs and illiberal arguments.

Anyone who disagrees with the ‘progressive left’ is instantly attacked as immoral, uncaring, or in many cases, advocating the suffering of others.

Without proper debate, there can never be an equitable solution to any problem. Years of bad laws forced through by a combination of Labour dogma and spin should have taught the country that, but then, I don’t believe socialists ever aspire to such a thing, I truly believe they are only motivated by self-interest.

Unfortunately, it would appear that they have taught the population in general to expect the same selfishness to be admired in all areas.

That’s the atrocious legacy of Labour IMHO.

]]> By: Constantly Furious http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/01/how-to-completely-screw-up-a-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-7470 Constantly Furious Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:00:33 +0000 http://charlottegore.com/?p=1732#comment-7470 As I've said, many many times, here and elsewhere, this kind of attack is the last resort of the bankrupt (in every sense) Left. Got no policies? Got no idea what your policies should or might be? No problem. Attack. Attack! ATTAAAACK!! No <i>need</i> for ideas when you can denigrate others'. Ignore 'em. Fuck 'em. As I’ve said, many many times, here and elsewhere, this kind of attack is the last resort of the bankrupt (in every sense) Left.

Got no policies? Got no idea what your policies should or might be? No problem. Attack. Attack! ATTAAAACK!!

No need for ideas when you can denigrate others’.

Ignore ‘em. Fuck ‘em.

]]> By: Plato http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/01/how-to-completely-screw-up-a-campaign.html/comment-page-1#comment-7469 Plato Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:26:28 +0000 http://charlottegore.com/?p=1732#comment-7469 Stick with it - you're right to take a stand on this one. Stick with it – you’re right to take a stand on this one.

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