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		<title>By: Psi</title>
		<link>http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/31/labours-home-secretaries.html/comment-page-1#comment-8040</link>
		<dc:creator>Psi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t ignore the tory responce to the situation (from the BBC):

Shadow home secretary Chris Grayling said the sacking had been &quot;an inevitable decision&quot; after Prof Nutt&#039;s &quot;latest ill-judged contribution to the debate&quot;. 

Anyone who responds like this to a scientific advisor speaking out against politicians distorting the advice given deserves a good kicking (metophorically speaking).

Funny how this sounds like a slightly less tragic version of the Iraq situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t ignore the tory responce to the situation (from the BBC):</p>
<p>Shadow home secretary Chris Grayling said the sacking had been &#8220;an inevitable decision&#8221; after Prof Nutt&#8217;s &#8220;latest ill-judged contribution to the debate&#8221;. </p>
<p>Anyone who responds like this to a scientific advisor speaking out against politicians distorting the advice given deserves a good kicking (metophorically speaking).</p>
<p>Funny how this sounds like a slightly less tragic version of the Iraq situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurence</title>
		<link>http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/31/labours-home-secretaries.html/comment-page-1#comment-8017</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 11:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ever since the Bernie Ecclestone £1m affair and the &quot;I&#039;m a pretty straight kinda guy&quot; non-denial denial, New Labour have shown themselves to be adepts at prostituting the facts to fit their &quot;truths&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever since the Bernie Ecclestone £1m affair and the &#8220;I&#8217;m a pretty straight kinda guy&#8221; non-denial denial, New Labour have shown themselves to be adepts at prostituting the facts to fit their &#8220;truths&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Gadsden</title>
		<link>http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/31/labours-home-secretaries.html/comment-page-1#comment-7958</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Gadsden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It isn&#039;t just Labour Home Secretaries.   Remember David Waddington and Michael Howard?

Is Douglas Hurd the last one to think that locking people up was generally a bad idea?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It isn&#8217;t just Labour Home Secretaries.   Remember David Waddington and Michael Howard?</p>
<p>Is Douglas Hurd the last one to think that locking people up was generally a bad idea?</p>
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		<title>By: A Scot not from Kirkcaldy, Cowdenbeath or Edinburgh South West</title>
		<link>http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/31/labours-home-secretaries.html/comment-page-1#comment-7954</link>
		<dc:creator>A Scot not from Kirkcaldy, Cowdenbeath or Edinburgh South West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This bunch of mendacious hypocrites have already shown that they don&#039;t give an aerial act of copulation as to whether or not there is any credible research that supports their supposedly &#039;evidence based&#039; authoritarian legislation.

What worries me is how willing they might be to ignore the body of evidence that will be presented by the millions of experts who are soon going to vote for anyone but Labour at the next election</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This bunch of mendacious hypocrites have already shown that they don&#8217;t give an aerial act of copulation as to whether or not there is any credible research that supports their supposedly &#8216;evidence based&#8217; authoritarian legislation.</p>
<p>What worries me is how willing they might be to ignore the body of evidence that will be presented by the millions of experts who are soon going to vote for anyone but Labour at the next election</p>
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		<title>By: Niklas Smith</title>
		<link>http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/31/labours-home-secretaries.html/comment-page-1#comment-7953</link>
		<dc:creator>Niklas Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh. I tried and failed to post a comment at Lib Dem Voice as well. Just wanted to give people a heads up to an excellent post and comment thread on this subject: http://www.libdemvoice.org/david-nutt-why-was-he-sacked-16703.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh. I tried and failed to post a comment at Lib Dem Voice as well. Just wanted to give people a heads up to an excellent post and comment thread on this subject: <a href="http://www.libdemvoice.org/david-nutt-why-was-he-sacked-16703.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.libdemvoice.org/david-nutt-why-was-he-sacked-16703.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Niklas Smith</title>
		<link>http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/31/labours-home-secretaries.html/comment-page-1#comment-7951</link>
		<dc:creator>Niklas Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment didn&#039;t post for some reason.... Here&#039;s a test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment didn&#8217;t post for some reason&#8230;. Here&#8217;s a test.</p>
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		<title>By: blind steve</title>
		<link>http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/31/labours-home-secretaries.html/comment-page-1#comment-7947</link>
		<dc:creator>blind steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The ‘appealing to the working classes’ through authoritarianism comes from Philip Gould’s book&quot;

Ah the focus group idiot. Well that explains it then.  Possibly the stupidest way of making policy ever devised by man.  But then again, it to is supposed to give you only the results that you wanted to hear.

It would be comedic, if it weren&#039;t so bloody serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The ‘appealing to the working classes’ through authoritarianism comes from Philip Gould’s book&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah the focus group idiot. Well that explains it then.  Possibly the stupidest way of making policy ever devised by man.  But then again, it to is supposed to give you only the results that you wanted to hear.</p>
<p>It would be comedic, if it weren&#8217;t so bloody serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlotte Gore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlotte Gore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;appealing to the working classes&#039; through authoritarianism comes from Philip Gould&#039;s book, &quot;Unfinished Revolution&quot; - might not be how things worked out but it&#039;s what they genuinely believe. Think Sun readers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;appealing to the working classes&#8217; through authoritarianism comes from Philip Gould&#8217;s book, &#8220;Unfinished Revolution&#8221; &#8211; might not be how things worked out but it&#8217;s what they genuinely believe. Think Sun readers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: blind steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>blind steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That’s what New Labour is all about - reconnecting with the working classes&quot;

No, I&#039;ll have to stop you there.  Labour couldn&#039;t give a monkey&#039;s chuff for the working classes.  Like most of the left - and apparently, weirdly, Lembit Opik - they are hopelessly obsessed with Thatcher, and it was the middle classes &#039;wot won it&#039; for her.

And of course all sensible middle class people of the smug irritating greenish lefty persuasion know for a &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;fact&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; that drugs are bad, m&#039;kay, and harm children.  

I wonder who could have told them that ?  Repeatedly.

Oh and also, they are mostly parents.  Which you can&#039;t possibly understand unless you are one, apparently, and which confers some mystical power to be right all the time even when, in fact &lt;em&gt;especially&lt;/em&gt; when, all the actual evidence is to the contrary.  It&#039;s like a super power, only much less attractive.

I take your point about Authoritarian Super Cocks, ably demonstrated by recent occupants, but I reckon that most people who get the Ministry of Daily Mail Sensationalism post are probably ASC&#039;s to begin with.

This is almost certainly the case for the Labour mob, authoritarian statists to a man (or woman, or whatever combination Jacqui Smith is), and probably the case for most politicians.

The HO just allows them to stop pretending otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That’s what New Labour is all about &#8211; reconnecting with the working classes&#8221;</p>
<p>No, I&#8217;ll have to stop you there.  Labour couldn&#8217;t give a monkey&#8217;s chuff for the working classes.  Like most of the left &#8211; and apparently, weirdly, Lembit Opik &#8211; they are hopelessly obsessed with Thatcher, and it was the middle classes &#8216;wot won it&#8217; for her.</p>
<p>And of course all sensible middle class people of the smug irritating greenish lefty persuasion know for a <strong><em>fact</em></strong> that drugs are bad, m&#8217;kay, and harm children.  </p>
<p>I wonder who could have told them that ?  Repeatedly.</p>
<p>Oh and also, they are mostly parents.  Which you can&#8217;t possibly understand unless you are one, apparently, and which confers some mystical power to be right all the time even when, in fact <em>especially</em> when, all the actual evidence is to the contrary.  It&#8217;s like a super power, only much less attractive.</p>
<p>I take your point about Authoritarian Super Cocks, ably demonstrated by recent occupants, but I reckon that most people who get the Ministry of Daily Mail Sensationalism post are probably ASC&#8217;s to begin with.</p>
<p>This is almost certainly the case for the Labour mob, authoritarian statists to a man (or woman, or whatever combination Jacqui Smith is), and probably the case for most politicians.</p>
<p>The HO just allows them to stop pretending otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://charlottegore.com/2009/10/31/labours-home-secretaries.html/comment-page-1#comment-7943</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan Johnson&#039;s wafer thin veneer is starting to crack. The arrogance and incompetence of this &#039;government&#039; is really quite remarkable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Johnson&#8217;s wafer thin veneer is starting to crack. The arrogance and incompetence of this &#8216;government&#8217; is really quite remarkable</p>
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