Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer not to assume that everyone arrested is guilty. And I thought you were a classical liberal …

There are some figures available, although not totally up to date, at the House of Commons website. Google for
Home Affairs Committee “Young Black People and the Criminal Justice System” – three pdfs – there may be more.

One doc, “Young Black People and the Criminal Justice System, The Statistical Evidence” gives overall figures – I think for England and Wales. Black males are certainly heavily “over-represented” given their proportion of the population.

There’s also this :

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs06/s95race05.pdf

which shows for example that in 2004 London Crown Courts (tend to be used for the most serious crimes) 3,993 white people were convicted and 3,031 black. Alas no similar figures for magistrates courts, nor were the London figures broken down by type of offence.

But that doesn’t really work for me, for Pope Benedict XVIII had, (some say, like the Stig) to “join the Hitler Youth”. Anyway, Liddle got fired.

The point I was making in my comment on Charlotte’s last piece just below about this, was that Liddle is perhaps articulating what loads of disenfranchised people think is happening. He may be wrong in detail, but he’s saying what many people, not of the intellectual blogosphere and not pundits, think is going on.

If they are wrong, somebody has got to trumpet the fact, and soon, before it’s too late.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rememberscarborough.jpg

Southie

The explanation is Nunthorpe and Guisborough, Teeside, and the SWP

Nunthorpe is the slop-out trough of Europe – the only good news there has ever been in the North-East was the Kaiser shelling West Hartlepool in 1917

The SWP are dementedly committed to controlling ‘education’(sic) through drug rackets in Universities, thus engendering the ghetto crime culture he is claiming to be criticising

Even if you cheat and just focus on London, the overall number of crimes committed by whites is 53.1%. In fact, the only category of crime in which black people commit the most crimes is in robbery, for which they account for 58% in London.

You said you’d tell me if I told you where Rod Liddle got his from ! How should I know ? But while I’m not qualified to say where he got his stats from, you should be able to say where you got yours from.

Not that I’m not defending Wod here – far from it …

http://ukcommentators.blogspot.com/2008/10/rod-vs-rachel-gift-that-keeps-on-giving.html

I’m starting to like the look of your politics these days Charlotte. I reckon there’s much common ground between Boaty & D and yourself.

I agreed with you about Liddle, by the way.

Oh, and when people slag you off for being right wing one minute, and left wing the next, it’s probably because you’re in the right.